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May 12, 1981
WORKSHOP MEETING
CITY COUNCIL OF TRMARAC, FLORIDA
There will be a Workshop Meeting of the City Council on Wednesday,
May 20, 1981 at 10:00 A.M. in the West Conference Room at City
Hall, 5811 N. W. 88th Avenue, Tamarac, Florida.
The purpose of the Workshop is to have Michael A. Shiff and Associates
in attendance to review with Council their projections relating to space
in connection with the City Hall.
The. City Council may consider such other items as may come before it.
The Public is invited to attend.
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-,uncil with respect to any matter considered at such meeting or
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purpose, he !may need to .ensure :that a verbatim rec-'rd includes
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Carol A. Evans, Assistant City Clerk
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5 811 N0RTHWESI- 8ST11 AVENUE 0 TAM AR AC, F L 0 R I D A 33321
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May 15, 1981
RESCHEDULED
WORKSHOP MEETING
CITY COUNCIL OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA
The Workshop Meeting originally scheduled to be held on
Wednesday, May 20, 1981 at 10:00 A.M. has been rescheduled
and will be held on Thursday, May 21, 1981 at 2:00 P.M. in
the West Conference Room at City Hall, 5811 N. W. 88th Avenue.
The purpose of the Workshop is to have Michael A. Shiff and
Associates in attendance to review with Council their pro-
jections relating to space in connection with the City Hall.
The City Council may consider such other items as may come
before it.
The Public is invited to attend.
_Carol A. Evans, Assistant City C er
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Pursuant to Chapter 80405 of Florida Law, Senate gill No;168:
If a person decides to appeal any decision made by the City
Council with respect to any matter considered at such meeting or
hearing, he will need a record the proceedings and for such
purpose, he may need to ensure that a verbatim record includes
the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.
CITY OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA
CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING
May 21, 1981
DISCUSSION OF CIVIC CENTER AND SPACE
CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Falck called the meeting to order to 2:00 P.M.,
Thursday, May 21, 1981, in the West Conference Room
at City Hall.
ROLL CALL: PRESENT: Mayor Walter W. Falck
Vice Mayor Irving M. Disraelly
Councilman Philip B. Kravitz
Councilman Irving Zemel
Councilwoman Helen Massaro - Absent
and in attendance at 2:30 P.M.
ALSO PRESENT: City Manager Laura Z. Stuurmans
Mayor Falck read the official notice of the workshop meeting originally
scheduled to be held on May 20, 1981 at 10:00 A.M. for the purpose of
having Michael A. Shiff and Associates in attendance to review with Council
their projections relating to space in connection with the City Hall.
Mr. Michael Shiff introduced Ms. Linda Finch who is the Director of Design
in his office, and who worked with him on this project. The preliminary
sketch was presented at a previous meeting and they were instructed to go
back and revisit a few other departments and meet with the City Manager to
try to finalize the program which was contracted. At this time, Mr. Shiff
distributed copies of the report so that it could be reviewed.
Mr. Shiff said they were asked to come up with a program for future capital
improvements for City Hall, a possible Community Center, Police Station, etc.
They consequently met with various department heads and administrative staff
to evaluate what would be the needs of the City of Tamarac anticipating future
growth.
In the beginning of the program, under Program Synopsis, Michael A. Shiff
and Associates recommended approximately 34,500 square feet for City Hall,
the Police Department at approximately 22,000 square feet, and a Community
Center of approximately 10,000 square feet, arriving at a grand total of
approximately 66,800 square feet of space.
Mr. Shiff noted the next page covers the existing facilities and personnel.
The existing City Hall has a gross area of about 15,800 square feet, which
nets down to about 11,800 square feet eliminating bathrooms, corridors and other
similar spaces. There are approximately 69 people presently assigned to City
Hall. In addition to the 57 people in the Police Department, there are approx-
imately 126 people utilizing this building, or about 125 square feet per person.
Mr. Shiff felt the special requirements for build -out will be approximately
34,000 square feet for the entire City Hall building with a projected personnel
at City Hall of about 94, which is just for administration, and not including
the Police Department, which allows about 360 square feet per person. Mr.
Shiff felt City Hall peaked a long time ago because of over -crowded circumstances
at this time. He felt the Police Department adequately needs 22,000 square feet
for a projected personnel of 157, which ones out to approximately 372 square
feet per person.
Mr. Shiff said the majority of the balance of the book goes through each specific
department and lists the personnel, and space that would be required. This in-
cludes the following: Administration, City Attorney, City Clerk, Finance De-
partment, Personnel & Insurance, City Engineer, Building Department, Community
Development, City Commission Offices, Board & Committee Roans, Public Lobby area,
Administrative Services, Circulation, Mechanical space. This does not include
the Utility Department personnel, only the financing functions of the Utility
Department and the computer is included in the new building. The Police De-
partment is broken down with approximately 22,326 square feet.
The last program in the book is the Community Center. Mr. Shiff mentioned he had
previously drawn up plans for a Cultural Center, copies of which are on record.
This Community Center will hold approximately 350 to 400 people, and could be
used for various functions, similar to many condominium auditoriums in Broward
County. He also felt there should be a couple of additional multi -purpose roens
that could be used for arts & crafts, painting classes, etc. He projected the
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size of this facility should be approximately 10,000 square feet.
Mr. Shiff reviewed the last portion of the book, the Conceptual Site Plans,
shing how this facility might fit on the ten plus acre site on 88th Avenue
where the Fire Station is. He then produced a plan showing these sites along
with parking facilities and mentioned that he was not asked to design these
sites, just to present a proposal for same.
Mr. Shiff stated in Alternate #1 they provided the City Hall function closer
towards 88th Avenue, the Police Department having separate access and parking,
the Community Center relating to City Hall on the other side and put most of
the parking at the rear along the western side of the facility. The Police
Station and Fire Station are both related types of functions and can be closer
together, and in the same complex.
Mr. Shiff said the second plan is reversed with parking for City Hall and the
Community Center on 88th Avenue. Parking for the Police Department is separated,
and again the Police Department is close to the Fire Station. The canal, in
this scheme, would be brought in with a lake effect and add to the beauty of
the site.
The third concept would be to keep the Police Station and Fire Station on
one side with City Hall and the Community Center on the other side, and separate
the two functions with the parking facilities, Mr. Shiff stated.
All these schemes can work, Mr. Shiff felt, but wanted to show that there are
different ways that this site can be developed; that the site does have good
possibilities, and there are many options that could take place.
Mayor Falck raised a question as to the expansion possiblitites of City Hall.
Mr. Shiff explained that this could be designed for present planning taking
into account an addition in a couple of years, which could be done vertically
as a two or three story building, or it could be horizontally in stretching
the building out wider, if that's the option. At this point, it shows one level
with the proper square footage. He felt it could be built like a shell, like
Plantation did, and only finish the portion of it that is needed, and finish
it as needed.
Mr. Shiff said they looked at some cost generations and some alternate plans
the City could use near the end of the book. Under Item A they show City Hall
being built with approximately 35,000 square feet at approximately $60.00 a square
foot, the total estimated cost based upon today's dollars of approximately
$3,300,000.00. The Police Department has an estimated cost of $1,800,000.00
and the Community Centex estimated at about $45.00 per square foot, or approx-
imately $765,000.00. If City Hall is anticipated being sold for about $1,000,000.00,
the total cost would be about $5,000,000.00.
Item B, he said, covers building a new City Hall, renovating the existing build-
ing for the Police Department, and building a smaller Cammmity Center of maybe
only 5,000 square feet, and indicates a net cost of Concept B at the bottom also.
For this Concept, the higher price per square foot was used only for the additional
space.
Mr. Shiff told Council the third alternative is to build a new Police Department
and then utilize this building for City Hall, moving into the Police Department
area, which should fulfill City requirements for at least a few mare years.
Mayor Falck felt that a thorough job was done, and now Council has to decide
which way to go and this report will enable them to make some sort of decision.
Councilman Kravitz said that the last time this c mplex was discussed, Mr. Shiff
felt it would be better to build it as one rather than separately, and include
kitchen facilities in same. Councilman Kravitz wanted to know whether kitchen
facilities were considered at this time. Mr. Shiff said it is included in Item #1
under auditorium stage and backstage whichhas 5,200 square feet, and the cost is
included under furnishings and equipment.
Councilman Kravitz questioned the seating capacity of the Community Center and
whether to make the seating capacity larger, and then sub -divide the area. Mr.
Shiff felt it would get too large at that point, and couldn't be needed on a year-
round basis, and he felt it had to be decided whether there's a need for 600 seats
or not, and then can be divided up,however decided.
Councilman Kravitz asked how much would be saved by building a larger complex
now, and Mr. Robert A. Sawyer, also with Mr. Shiff, felt that three-quarters of
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personnel and figures are already included in these plans. He added that
the City basically knows what is needed in the year 1990, and considering
the idea of cost of inflation by putting off building now, it could cost
five times what it costs today.
Councilman Kravitz asked whether the $5,000,000.00 figure takes in the cost
of land, or how much land would be needed. It was established that the land
is owned by the city, and would make the value of the building much greater.
Mr. Shiff stated that no land coverage is included in these plans as to whether
there would be any land left over, but said he could work it out to leave
a couple of acres over in a corner. It is a 14.3 acre site.
Mayor Falck said he felt several workshops should be set up to analyze the
possibilities available. Mr. Shiff said he would be available for any questions
needed to be answered.
There being no further business, t-fe workshop meeting was adjourned by Mayor
Falck at 2:45 P.M.
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This public document was promulgated at a cost of $ ' a,, or $ 3, 1�21
per copy to inform the general public and public officers and employees about
recent opinions and considerations by the City Council of the City of Tamarac.
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