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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981-10-13 - City Commission Workshop Meeting Minutes5?:11B NOR'i'HVi/ES-' 88..rFI AVENUE TAMARAC, FLORIDA 33321 . -f ELEPFIIONE (305) 722-5900 September 22, 1981 REVISED NOTICE CITY COUNCIL OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA Please be advised that there will be a Workshop Meeting for the purpose of discussing the matter of Space and the Proposed Civic/Community Center. The Meeting will be held in Council Chambers on Tuesday, October 1.3, 1981 at 1:30 P.M. The City Council may consider such other items as may come before it. The Public is invited to attend. Assistant City Clerk Pursuant to Chapter 80405 of Florida Law, Senate Bill No, 368; /lc if; a p&spn decides to appeal any decision made by the City Council with respect to any matter considered at such meeting Qr kearhi(gf he will need a record the proceedings and for sugb 9/22/81 purpo§ea he may need to ensure that a verbatim record include: tila t@6ti"hy and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based. Mr. Shiff said the City of Lauderhill has a Senior Citizen coordinator who takes charge and revised much of the programing. They have their Special Services Department in that building, a team room With pool table, ping Dona table, etc.. C/W Massaro asked what problems there were so Tamarac might know what to avoid, and how long it took to build this. Mr. Shiff estimated it would take about 15 months from planning stages to finish. C/W Massaro asked how much land he feels is needed to have a reasonable area with outside space? Mr. Shiff said at least one acre of land for the facility, the outdoor use and the parking. Mr. Sayers said they have a building that is going to bid in 3 or 4 weeks for the City of Plantation. He suggests that Tamarac just develop the largest program possible and then begin to decide which will be best for this city; there might be several solutions; perhaps more than one building with open space used as open active recreations set up between the two buildings. This space could be closed up if and when the time comes. Mr. Sayer described the Plantation facility_ as 26,000 sq. ft., with an auditorium that provides seating for 350 people; and a gym 50' x 841. He estimated that bids should come in at under $50 per sq. ft. The gym, locker rooms and supporting facilities are designed to be built in the first phase and the auditorium, second story facilities are in the second phase. The gym is adjacent to the auditorium with a kitchen included. The bids for the second phase could come in at a 15% higher price. C/W Massaro asked how much more it would cost to phase the buildings instead of building it completely at one time; is there a percentage loss in phasing? Mr. Sayers said he is not aware of any percentage loss. C/W Massaro asked Sharon Ellis, Recreation Director, what she suggests might be desirable for the young people. Ms. Ellis answered that in general, a multi -purpose gymnasium -type facility with enough space for viewers to observe the activities. She suggested either a wooden floor or vinyl tile because if they use indoor carpeting that rules out using the gym for dancing of various types, as well as gymnastics. She said, hopefully, the size of the gym could be 60' x 100'. She said the young people in this community are concerned as to what they would have --they want a teen center. C/M Zeme1 asked how many teenagers and younger children there are in the City of Tamarac. Mr. Norman Karr, Parks Commissioner, answered that there are 4,500 total, 300 in the 9th grade, 1.,500 pre-schoolers, and 3,000 of school age; these figures provided by Dick Lewis Fort Lauderdale Pupil Placement. Ms. Ellis stressed the need for a permanent teen room so that their stability be maintained concerning equipment, etc. She said more will make use of the facilities if the activities are made attractive enough. Mayor Falck pointed out that a drop of 150 rh.i_ldrPr,. in Tamarac RIAMC'ntary School next year is anticipated. Ms. Ellis said that the figures do not accurately predict because there are children presently enrolled in Pinewood "School in North Lauderdale as well as in private schools. C/M Kravitz volunteered as liaison to the Community Center Committee, to visit all the existing community centers and give input to Council. C/W Massaro said she feels that all members of Council should go to visit these centers. V/M Disraelly also suggested seeing these facilities himself. C/W Massaro asked Ms. Ellis if the city were to build a Phase 1 portion of the Community Center, which would be the most important portion? Ms. Ellis answered that a gym with a wood or vinyl tile floor, sliding - 2 - 10/13/81 /pm CITY OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP 14EETING OCTOBER 13, 1981 CALL'TO ORDER: Mayor Falck called the Workshop Meeting to Order at 1:30 p.m. on Tuesday, October 13, 1981 in the Council. Chambers of City Hall. ROLL CALL: PRESENT: Councilman Irving P4. Zemel Councilman Philip B. Kravitz Councilwoman Helen Massaro Vice -Mayor Irving M. Disraelly Mayor Walter W. Falck ALSO PRESENT: Asst. City Clerk, Carol A. Evans Mayor Falck explained the purpose of meeting is to discuss the matter of Space and the Proposed Civic/Community Center. The Mayor said that this meeting was called specifically to try to wind up any loose ends that may be in existence as they relate to the numerous discussions about the possibility of building a Community Center in the western portion of the City. hopefully, from this meeting the proper people in the City Manager's office might be instructed to go out for bids for the services of an architect. There was an ad placed by the City Clerk's office and three firms did express an interest in this particular project. Some of them are here and they have materials that they would like to discuss with the Council. C/W Massaro said she feels that there should be one name for it; not "Civic/Community Center". She said we must be aware that nothing should be done without much thought. That this center must be strictly "recreational" to serve adults, senior citizens and young adults. She said too many groups want to use this facility. The Mayor said there are several programs in the City at the present time that are beneficial: such as, arts and crafts, and community after -school educational facilities. Ile said flexibility is a "must" in a Community Center. C/M Zemel said he would like to listen to the concepts of the people in the audience. Mr. Robert Sayers, representing the firm of Peabody & Childs, asked whether he should make a presentation or make himself available to Council's questions. C/W Massaro said basically the Council is looking for some input as to some guidance for this project. C/M Kravitz said that we should not ask for input from the audience but rather should tell the architects what is wanted by Council and have them tell the best wav to handle it. V/M Disraelly said the builders have experience and might have some good ideas. Since they have built several facilities they have a better idea what is needed and -what is not. Mr. Mike Shiff said it is important that the facilities within the building should speak to the needs of the community that it serves. Ile said after each applicant submits his materials, the Council can work with them to refine what they feel they want done. Ile went on to describe the Lauderhill Community Center which has three community meeting rooms, one large one that can be divided into three smaller ones it has Arts and Crafts areas, and it houses the Recreation Staff .,for the City of Lauderhill. - 1 -- 10/13/81 /pm partitions dividing it into various meeting areas, various clubs could meet there, classes could be held, and this would suffice for the time being. Mr. Everett Jenner from Craven, Thompson Associates, head of the Architectural Department suggested looking at already existing facilities that could meet the communities' needs now, such as schools, clubs, etc. in Broward County. Ile said he built centers in New York State that were supposed to be "all things to all people" but if not planned properly they do not get used to their full potential. Mr. Jenner said they are presently putting on an addition to an already existing facility in Coconut Creek. The facility already houses an arts and crafts room and several meeting rooms and the addition will be one large room. The purpose of this new room is for gatherings they cannot accommodate in their existing rooms. Mr. Craig Kenyon with Miller & Meier agreed with Mr. Jenner that the idea of multi -purpose is lost if too much is planned for a specific area. It should be split up with senior citizens areas separate from teenage room areas. Ile said at Lauderdale Manor Recreation Center, which was already in existance but not used much, his firm renovated it providing two separate rooms, one for adults and the other for teens. They shared common spaces between them-- restroom facilities, kitchen and storage areas. The rooms are approximately 1,000 sq. ft. each. Rooms should be about 20' x 30' to be adequate. Vice -Mayor Disraelly asked Ms. Ellis how many rooms are needed? She answered there is a definite need for a separate room for arts and crafts, teen room, game room, general social room. Mayor Falck said a small kitchen would be helpful but not a large kitchen facility. Mr. Kenyon suggested that thought be given to natural ventilation in the building wherever possible as opposed to air conditioning. This would be economical as well as comfortable. Ile said, in planning an outdoor gym, these can be inexpensive and useful. Mr. Karr suggested the Council see the Lauderdale Lakes complex which has an outdoor gym. Mayor Falck stated he will confer with the arrangements to have the Council view local thanked those who spoke at this meeting for adjourned at 3:00 p.m. ASST. CITY CLERK City Attorney and make community complexes. Ile their input. The meeting This public document was promulgated at a cost of $,30,%f or$ N2,7 F per copy, to inform the general public and public officers and employees about recent opinions and consideration by the City Council of the City of Tamarac. - 3 - 10/13/31 /pm