HomeMy WebLinkAbout1980-10-21 - City Commission Workshop Meeting MinutesF .
5811 NORTHWEST 88TH AVENUE 9 TAMARAC, FLORIDA 33321
TELEPHONE (305) 722-5900
October 13, 1980
WORKSHOP MEETING
CITY COUNCIL
TAMARAC, FLORIDA
Please be advised of a Workshop Meeting of the City Council
to be held on Tuesday, October 21, 1980 at 1:30 PM in the
West Conference Room at City Hall.
The purpose of the Meeting is to discuss bus stops.
Council may consider such other business as may come before
it.
The public is invited to attend.
Carol A. Evans
Assistant City Clerk
lc
CITY OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA
CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING
BUS SHELTERS
October 21, 1980
CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Falck called the meeting to order stating
that this was a Workshop Meeting, City Council, City of Tamarac,
Florida, Tueday, October 21, 1980 at 1:30 P.M., West Conference
Room, City Hall.
ROLL CALL: PRESENT: Mayor Walter F.Falck
C/W M. Ketch
C/M I. Zemel
C/M I. Disraelly
V/M H. Massaro
ALSO PRESENT: Ed Gross, City Manager
Clerk Steno., Pat Eisen
C/M Zemel indicated that he had a request from the leaders of
Section 21 to look into the possibility of having the county pro-
vide them with a bus shelter in the area of their Club House with
the contention that many of their people used the bus and that
this was an open space; the people being subjected to standing out
in the heat during the summer months and also to rain. C/M Zemel
then contacted Mr. Iskowitz of the Transportation Department and
his assistant, they having indicated other Council members had
been in touch with them in reference to shelters, and suggested
that perhaps we could arrange a mutual meeting where all of these
things could be discussed. Mayor Falck then scheduled a Workshop
Meeting. C/M Zemel then mentioned that he had misunderstood the
context of the Mayor's memo and, as a result, he had not contacted
the members of the Transportation System, so that is why there
aren't any members of the Transportation System here today.
Mr. Bob Glasser indicated that the people have been waiting for a
bus shelter for 8 years which had been promised by the County
Commission and has never been accomplished. The bus riders have
to stand on an open road, which is an access road and it is
dangerous; they are also subject to inclement weather and the heat
of the sun - if a bus breaks down, they have to wait a long time
with no shelter to protect them. He mentioned that they are senior
citizens and are relying on a bus shelter and bus stops. Mr.
Glasser indicated that C/M Zemel understandstheir problem and with
the cooperation of the Mayor, this Workshop Meeting was arranged
and asked that Council please understand their plea for help.
City Manager Ed Gross stated that he had contacted the Transporta-
tion Department a few weeks back at the request of the Mayor and
discussed with them what could be done for the City of Tamarac.
The County's budget beginning October 1, 1980 includes 22 bus
stops scheduled for construction and the City has a commitment
from the County for two in the City of Tamarac which he feels is
a good percentage. He indicated that doesn't mean we can only get
two, as there are all kinds of grants that the County has applied
for and other types of programs that the City has looked into.
Mr. Gross went on to say that the No. 1 item of bus shelters in
Tamarac at the present time was on their list last year, this
being a bus shelter on the South side of University Drive at the
hospital; 60 passengers a day use that spot. Section 13 had
asked for one and there was also a discussion on putting one at
University and McNab. He said we all feel that every section is
in the same predicament as Section 21 and 22, there being many
senior citizens and even if the buses were on time, one can wait
an hour for a bus in the sun.
-1-- October 21, 1980
/pe
We do have a promise, but not a date, Mr. Gross said for two
shelters; one at the hospital and one for another section of
Tamarac and he has asked the County to propose a cost if the
City wants to purchase a bus shelter and put it up, but that
proposal has not been received yet. Mr. Gross then indicated
that last year there was one bus shelter company that contacted
us about putting up shelters in the City of Tamarac, but we
haven't heard from them for about 4 months.
V/M Massaro wanted to know what happened to the program that
Mr. Gross was looking into and feels it does require a follow-
up and she also thought what they were offering was a good idea,
as we would have the privilege of selecting the advertising,
colors, etc. V/M Massaro indicated that every section in the
city will be fighting for the second bus shelter. She mentioned
that there are many people with walkers who have to use the bus
and again suggested to Mr. Gross to look into that bus shelter
company, as she felt advertising is worth putting up with,
rather than have nothing.
C/W Kelch referred to the shelters that were erected on
Commercial Blvd. and then removed and wondered if those are
still pledged to us and if they are being returned.
V/M Massaro felt they had no right to take them away without
returning them.
C/W Kelch felt that the shelter in Mainlands 1 and 2 was not used
and can go somewhere else if we still have it, as people go over
to the Publix Market where they can get out of the weather.
C/M Zemel questioned the fact that the bus shelter was removed
from N.W. 81st Street and wondered what happened to that.
Mr. Gross indicated that the bus company has been known to move
shelters if they were not used.
C/M Disraelly said he was under the impression that we were going
to see what happened to the bus shelters that were now missing
and try to get them re -allocated. C/M Disraelly mentioned that
traffic counts are taken -into consideration and that we should
go to the County to see if the City can get some counts from them,
as he had hoped we would have some input as to where shelters
could be located so that they could be re -allocated.
Mayor Falck mentioned that there was one thing that disturbed
him and that is that the County eventually has to contact the
City, but they have not contacted the City about this --yet. The
Mayor said he thought that what we need to do is orient our
thinking a bit;
he doesn't feel the people should have waited 8 years in order
to get something that should have been made available. The
Mayor then asked the City Manager to get a report on shelters
that were once here and he stated that he didn't see any point
at all in putting any kind of a bus shelter at University and
McNab, as there is one up close to the hospital
There was a discu
benches and seats
C/W Kelch advised
Department builds
from the weather;
Mr. Glasser asked
they got one thro
ssion by the people of Section 21 as to the
that were available.
that we can get benches, as our Public Works
them, but that doesn't protect the people
however it is better than standing.
how Lime Bay got one and Mr. Gross said that
ugh us which is the one on Westwood Blvd.
-2- October 21, 1980
/pe
r � �
Mayor Falck said he doesn' t know if tFie County will go to any area the
City suggests, but he thinks the citizens have indicated to the City
their need and their interest in getting a shelter of some
kind and the City can follow through when the City Manager
gets us the up -date on the various projects that were dis-
cussed.
C/M Zemel discussed a bus stop sign on 103rd Avenue and 80th
Street which is not a bus stop and people stand there and
wait for the bus and the bus doesn't even come down that
street.
A gentleman from the public discussed a bus stop in Westwood
which is near a canal and the people step into a large puddle,
with a possibility of breaking a leg.
The Mayor said this was being investigated because it is a
hazard and the Mayor said he had seen a letter to the County
on it.
Mr. Bob Glasser asked the City Manager when they will hear
from the City and Mr. Gross said he will have his report to
the Council ready for about the loth of November.
V/M Massaro said she understood that would be two reports;
the County report and the report giving information on the
advertising firm that had made an offer before.
Mayor Falck ADJOURNED the meeting at 2:00 P.M.
This public document was promulgated at a cost of $24.09 or
$.96 per copy, to inform the general public and public
officers and employees about recent opinions and considera-
tions by the City Council of the City of Tamarac.
-3- October 21, 1980
/pe