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February 21, 1980
PUBLIC HEARING
CITY COUNCIL
PLANNING COMMISSION
... Februar V. 19.80.
PURPOSE OF MEETING: To provide opportunity for effective
public participation in the planning
process to the fullest extent possible,
prior to the adoption of Six Elements
of the Tamarac Comprehensive Plan.
CALL TO ORDER: 7:00 P.M. - COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1. Meditation and Pledge
2. General Discussion of Elements:
Traffic Circulation
Open Space/Recreation
Housing
Conservation
Public Utilities
Intergovernmental Coordination.
3. OPEN PUBLIC HEARING
At the hearing, any citizen, property
owner., public official or local govern-
ment unit shall be entitled to be heard
for or against the Six Elements.
4. CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
ADJOURNMENT.
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MARILYN BERTHOLF�— r
City Clerk
CITY OF TAIIMC, FLORDIA
CITY COUNCIL METING
PUBLIC HEARING
together with PLANNING CONNffSSION
FEBRUARY 27, 1980
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Mayor Falck called the meeting to order on Wednesday, February 27th, 1980
at 7:00 P.M., in Council Chambers.
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FOR PLANNING COn4ISSION:
ABSENT & EXCUSED
ALSO PRESENT
Mayor W. Falck
V/M H. Massaro
C/W M. Kelch
C/M H. Wiener
C/M I. Disraelly
CU Mai . E . Beutner
City Mgr. E.A.Gross
City Atty. A.M.Birken
City Planner, E.A.Cross
City Clerk, M. Bertholf
Asst. City Clerk, C. Evans
Mayor Falck said this is a joint meeting of the City Council and Planning
Commission. He said the purpose of this meeting is to provide an opportunity
for public participation in the planning process to the fullest extent possible
prior to the adoption of the six elements of the Tamarac Comprehensive Plan.
Mayor Falck said the six elements are:
Traffic Circulation
Open Space and Recreation
Housing
Conservation
Public Utilities
Intergoverrm-ental Coordination.
Mayor Falck said he had been presented with a petition relating to a traffic
light, from people in Section 7. Mayor Falck said they could
not discuss traffic lights as this element discusses Traffic Circulation.
However, he would gladly take the petition and see that it is properly
filed and handled with Broward County, as that is all that the City can
do.
Charles H. Ellner was recognized and said he resides at 4712 N. W. 58th
Street, Section 7. He said if traffic circulation is to be considered,
then traffic volume is a necessary part thereof. He said their means
of exit from his section is controlled by a traffic light about a block
to the west of them, and that is being removed and not being replaced at
all. Mr. Ellner said he believed the light had originally been installed
to control golf carts going across the road and a tunnel is now being
built for the carts. In attempting to get out of his section, they are
confronted by a heavy stream of traffic on Commercial Boulevard going both
east and west, which does not stop until the light on Rock Island Road
stops the traffic. However, traffic very often blocks their street and
so they carmot get out.
Mayor Falck said they are aware of this problem and have in the past, and
will again pursue this matter. However, that has nothing to do with the
Traffic Circulation element to be discussed tonight.
Mr. Gross said a study is being done at no cost to the City, by an engineering
firm, so that they can go before the County on this item,in the immediate future.
However, tonight's discussion will only cover where the roads should be; not
how to control the traffic.
Mayor Falck said Council is aware of this problem and is in sympathy with these
residents. However, traffic lights are controlled by the Board of County
Commissioners issioners and action has been taken by Council in the way of discussions,
etc.
Mr. Ellner said that the Planning Commission had indicated that they would
send a letter to the County regarding this problem and he would ask that
Council send a concurring letter. Mr. Gross said this had already been done.
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Mayor Falck said he would also send the petition along to the County
Commission.with a covering letter and send copy of same to Mr. Ellner.
Mr. Ellner stated some of the problems they had encountered in the past
regarding obtaining a traffic light and added there are other factors,
such as the human factor, that should be considered.
V/M Massaro said they are also working on this with someone who will be
getting the necessary added data that could be forwarded to the County
Commission. Council is as concerned as the residents,and realize
the dangers of this situation and they are endeavoring to convince the
County Commission of these factors. V/M Massaro said they are presently
working with an expert who believes they can help the City get this light.
She went on to discuss what Council will be doing to aid this matter further,
including spending of mmey necessary , and the appearance of all interested
parties in Section. 7 if needed. V/M Massaro also gave details of discussion
she had this past week with County officials, one of whom was in sympathy
and one of whom gave some resistance. They had said they would be back in
touch with her.
Mr. Ellner thanked Council.
Traffic Circulation
Mr. Cross introduced Walter Keller of Mid -South Engineering. He said Mr.
Keller's firm is preparing the Traffic Circulation and Housing Element,
and that these two had not been discussed at the Workshop Meeting. Mr.
Cross said that as the local planning agency which had been designated
by the City Council, the Planning Commission last Wednesday night held
a Public Hearing. Input had been received about the traffic light, as
it had been tonight. After discussion relating to the Traffic Circula-
tion element, it had been felt that a section should be added concerning
traffic signalization and indicating intersections at which signalization
might be needed at some future time.
Mr. Walter Keller, Vice -President of Mid -South Engineering was recognized
and said that at the Workshop held, it seemed that the traffic signalization
was the biggest concern and they had agreed to add some points
regarding this. One of these, was the maintenance of the signals being
the County's responsibility. Another one was to include information that
because of the age group of the;.residents of Tamarac being higher than
that of the County as a whole, that discussion on access to roads in some
areas should be addressed. Also, the need for signalization in certain
locations. However, the purpose of Traffic Circulation elements is not
to identify traffic signal locations. Mr. Keller went on to
discuss procedures for obtaining traffic signals, adding that it is very
often costly. Inasmuch as the City is concerned with traffic signals
however, Mr. Keller said he is addressing this superficially.
V/M Massaro said she believed there are certain areas where the County
had said that lights would go in. The Montwood Corporation gave
the County money for signalization and she believed they have specific
areas where they should go. Mr. Gross said the County has contracts
out for certain places, such as 61st St., University Drive. Mr. Keller
said they would get the necessary information from the County.
Mayor Falck spoke of a bond -that concerns the traffic light at 47th Terrace
and Commercial Boulevard and said he believes that light is almost ready
to operate. Mr. Keller said that unfortunately, getting a signal up
is a long process and usually not done until the situation becomes hazardous.
Mr. Keller said they would add to this element, what he had discussed regard-
ing traffic signalization. Comm. Beutner said he would request that Mr.
Keller indicate on the drawing at which locations they would like traffic
lights installed, although they might not be granted.
CAJ1,\elch questioned whether correction had been made of scrivener's errors.
Corm. Beutner requested that 58th lane be changed to read correctly 58th Place.
Mr. Keller said both had been taken care of.
questioned by Mr. Gross about public transportation, Mr. Keller said that
as of now the City has fairly good coverage on transit routes. However,
the frequency and destination might be reconsidered. However, at this
point in time, the County has no long range plan.
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Mr. Keller added that at a meeting of the Blue Ribbon panel, of which he is
a member, it was stated that the grid system is a goal for the County to
work towards. However, to have a grid system, more money and more capital
equipment is needed. Mr. Keller said that cities have no control over the
bus system. C/W Kelch said that Mr. Keller should add something to state
that the average age of citizens in Tamarac is such that they cannot always
continue to have private transportation, and so more public transportation
would be appreciated. Mr. Keller said he does not see any real solution
and that presently there are no major deficiencies in the existing coverage
other than the problem of having buses rum more frequently. In his report
he had discussed the development of a transportation system, using buses,
bikeways, etc. Mr. Keller went on to discuss the advantages of a grid
system saying that presentlyit takes a long time for buses to arrive at
their destination.
Mr. Gross said that in view of the section of public transportation, he
felt it might be advisable to add some things that they would like to
see in the future regarding that. Mr.Keller said they could expand the
Goals Section and put a special objective in regarding public transit, etc.
Mr. Gross asked that Mr. Keller check Area #4, which indicates the bus
that goes up University stopping at 82nd Street. However, it goes past
that up to Coral Springs.
Mayor Falck opened the item to the public. There being no one who wished
to speak, the Public Hearing was closed.
Mayor Falck indicated that he would like a motion, authorizing the City
Manager to follow through and see that the necessary changes as discussed
tonight are made. After that, he should submit the elements to ene proper
agencies for their review and certification. V/M Massaro said, "I SO MOVE."
C/W Kelch SECONDED the motion.
VOTE: ALL VOTED AYE.
Housi & Element
Mr. Cross said that this element was also prepared by Mid -South Engineering.
He stated that the Public Hearing had been held last Wednesday night before
the Planning Commission and he believed the major change would be in the
wording regarding prevention of blight.
Mr. Keller said this item had been discussed previously and he would do
editing in references to code enforcement that he had mentioned and
would work with Mr. Cross. Mr. Cross said they would also eliminate
any references to blight but perhaps could mention that code enforcement
is ongoing in the City.
Mayor Falck opened the Public Hearing. There being no one who wished
to speak, Public Hearing was closed.
Mayor Falck indicated that he would like a motion, authorizing the City
Manager to follow through and see that the necessary changes as discussed
at this meeting, are made. After which, he should submit the element
to the proper agencies for review and certification.
V/M Massaro said she would so move, with the addition: "That the item
that has been discussed at the Workshop Meeting also be considered to
be implemented in this element."
C/M Wiener SECONDED the motion.
VOTE: ALL VOTED AYE.
Util#y Element
Mr. Cross said this also been covered at Monday's Workshop Meeting and Mr.
Wohlfarth had made his presentation then. Mr. Cross said that staff had
gone over necessary changes and Council had made some suggestions, the
most significant of which regarded Land Section 7 drainage being included.
Mr. Cross said he and V/M Massaro had attended a meeting at Williams,
Hatfield & Stoner and when this study is prepared, it will become a
part of the Utility Element, by amendment.
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V/M Massaro said that there will be mentioned in this element the fact
that the City is contemplating this study. It will be made clear
that drainage canals are going to be necessary in that area, so that
anyone who is contemplating buying in Land Section 7 will be aware there
is a problem.
Mayor Falck opened the Public Hearing. There being no one who wished to
speak, Public Hearing was closed.
Mayor Falck said the Chair would entertain a motion to authorize the City
Manager to follow through and see that the necessary changes as discussed
are made, after which City Manager is to submit this element to the proper
agencies for review and certification.
Mr. Birken, the City Attorney, said Council might wish to review the re-
visions to see if the language was acceptable.
Tape #2 C/W Kelch said she sees no reason for review but does not know how other
Council members feel. She said it had been indicated that the important
matter of Land Section 7 will be included. V/M Massaro agreed, saying
that they can pass on it and then the City Attorney can forward it to
those members of Council who wish to review it. If any Council members
feel there is something they do not agree with, they can bring that element
back to a Council meeting for further review. V/M Massaro mentioned P. 7
to Mr. Cross as it related to a "typical four story building", and said the
City does not have typical four story buildings. She added that she would
like to bring to Mr. Birken's attention the fact that was brought up at
the meeting in Mr. Nolan's office yesterday and that is, they must get a
permit from the Water Management District and that should be started soon.
Also, an easement must be obtained from Leadership Housing to cross their
land to get to the Borrow Canal. Upon statement by Comm. Beutner that a
study of Land Sec. 7 had been made some years ago, V/M Massaro said that the
study that was made is not sufficient for what is needed now, but it would
be made available to the engineer.
V/M Massaro MOVED that the City Manager work with the City Planner and consult-
ing engineers to get all pertinent information in this element as it relates
particularly with Land Section 7 drainage and when the revised copy of this
element canes in, that the City Attorney give copies of it to those members
of Council that would like to review it, and then it is to be submitted to
the proper agencies for their review and certification.
In a discussion as to how Council wished to have this handled, Mr. Cross said
that he would submit a memorandum to Mayor and Council and give the up-to-date
changes on this and other elements in the event they have any questions with
the changes.
C/W Kelch SECONDED the motion.
VOTE: ALL VOTED AYE.
Mr. Gross asked if it would not be advisable to reference Land Section 7 in
other elements where necessary. Mr. Cross agreed, saying they can amend
any element to incorporate reference to Land Section 7 as appropriate, i.e.
the Utility Element, or others.
V/M Massaro mentioned that there are no backbone improvements in Land Section 7
and felt it should be noted so that anyone who wants to build will be aware it
is their responsibility. Mayor Falck said that as he understands it, the
County desires not only the elements, but the Land Use Plan itself so that
anyone who is desirous of developing a project or buying a piece of land. etc.
would have a place to go to review the Land Use Plan or the elements, which
should be kept current to show the status of each parcel of land in the area.
Therefore, he added, he agrees the point is well taken that mention should
be made of Land Section 7, and there should be enough in the element to
indicate what the responsibilities are of anyone who wishes to build.
Mr. Cross said he would add all necessary information and inform both con-
sultants about this.
A discussion took place between Comm. Beutner and Mr. Cross regarding the indica-
tion of 15 units to 21 units per acre mentioned in the Land Use Plan. Mr.
Cross said they are not having trouble administratively as they are showing
what was done and what is existing and by zoning there is only allowed 15 units
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per acre m,94rrzn. Comm. Beutner said it is his feeling that in the un-
developed area, it should be pointed out that they cannot go over the
15 units per acre maximmim. Mayor Falck indicated that Mr. Cross should
take that up with Mr. Birken and make a decision on it.
Questioned by C/W Kelch about Broadview Utilities, Mr. Cross said that
matter and others which had been mentioned previously, are being looked
into. V/M Massaro ,added that the subject of franchise fees is being checked
into by Tony Nolan and a report is due back on that.
Conservation Element ,
Mr. Cross said that this element had also been reviewed on Monday and a
request had been made regarding a change on p. 1, regarding topography
etc., and he has added information regarding the drainage going to the
Borrow Canal.
Mayor Falck opened the Public Hearing. There being no one in the public
who wished to speak, Public Hearing was closed.
V/M Massaro MOVED that the City Manager be authorized to follow through
and see that the necessary changes are made, after which City Manager is
to submit this element to the proper agencies for review and certification.
C/W Kelch SECONDED the motion.
VOTE: ALL VOTED AYE.
en Space/Recreation Element
Mr. Cross said this had been previously reviewed. Mr. Cross discussed
a meeting he had with a representative of the F. P. & L. regarding Cypress
Creek Common and during which he had been advised that they are putting
in another row of overhead wires. Therefore, this property is going to
be very limited as far as use is concerned. However, they are still con-
sidering the location for a bike path, which now might have to be in
the public right-of-way along Southgate Boulevard.
Mayor Falck opened the Public Hearing. There being no one in the public
who wished to speak, Public Hearing was closed.
V/M Massaro MOVED that the City Manager be authorized to follow through and
see that the necessary changes as discussed are made, after which he should
submit this element to the proper agencies for review and certification.
C/W Kelch SECONDED the motion.
VOTE: ALL VOTED AYE.
Intergovernmental Coordination Element
Mr. Cross gave a review of what he had commented on regarding this element
on Monday. Mr. Cross said all these elements will be forwarded and hopefully
there will not be too many changes from various review agencies. This
entire package will get back to Council in ordinance form for second reading.
Mayor Falck opened the Public Hearing. There being no me in the public
who wished to speak, Public Hearing was closed.
C/M Wiener MOVED that the City Manager be authorized to follow through and
see that the necessary changes as discussed are made, after which he should
submit this element to the proper agencies for review and certification.
C/W Kelch SECONDED the motion.
VOTE: ALL VOTED AYE.
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There being no further business, the meeting ADJOURNED.
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